I am watching all this from Ireland, the country which has the highest adult vaccination rate in Western Europe, at over 94% of the population. At the same time, curiously, we have some of the highest covid infection rates in Western Europe too. The government has not been able to explain this fact, but it is a trend that has recently manifested in some other highly-vaccinated places too: Gibraltar, Israel, West Flanders. High levels of vaccination do not seem to correspond with low-levels of disease; often quite the opposite.
I am not an anti-vaxxer. I sure in hell got a shingles vaccination some years ago. But I am skeptical of mRNA vaccines. My immune system has been very good to me, and I don’t want to mess with it. I have also been assured by a prominent physician who looked through my medical records that I am in good health for anybody at any age. I consistently test negative for Covid. Of course, I am 80 and am going to die some day. But fear of death is hardly the same as love of life. I am also not one who regards government pronouncements as if they were Holy Writ. Quite the contrary actually, especially when issued by an evil clown like Anthony Fauci. But people are free to believe as they choose.
The mRNA vaccine helps your immune system. It does nothing to hinder it. Who's spreading this misinformation, Frank?
ReplyDeleteAlso, on this idea that "The government has not been able to explain this fact". It's an odd thing to say.
Vaccinations prevent both catching the virus and then severity of virus in breakthrough cases. We know this, and know it very well. There is no valid reason not to get it.
Also, Frank, the virus is killing mostly unvaccinated people. All of us who are still living can get the feeling that maybe our immune system is superior to that of those who have died. It's at a rate of over a thousand a day, these superior immune system people are dying.
Actually, the mRNA vaccines are quite disliked by immune systems. That's why the MRNA medicine didn't cut it as cancer medication, the repeated doses were too toxic and there were too many autoimmune issues, so companies such as Moderna started focusing on vaccines, which only require one dose (or two, or now three, maybe four, maybe more, oops!--I guess that part didn't work out too well). You can read an interesting history of their development at https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10/the-story-of-mrna-how-a-once-dismissed-idea-became-a-leading-technology-in-the-covid-vaccine-race/ As for the main point, which is that the vaccines have not ended the threat of the virus as public health officials such as Fauci claimed they would, that's undeniably true, or we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. In fact, that's the entire point of the article that the post links to; it wonders why places with few vaccinations have few virus cases while places with many vaccinations have many cases. Others have also wondered why the virus is worse this year than last year considering that this year we have vaccines: https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-covid-19-deaths-in-2021-surpass-2020-11637426356. Maybe actually read the article before parroting government and Big Pharma propaganda, which sounds more ludicrous every day. As for no valid reason not to get the vaccine, maybe check out VAERS sometime. It's quite interesting reading, particularly for anyone thinking about getting a booster or the initial vaccine: https://vaers.hhs.gov/index.html
ReplyDeleteIf you are interested in following some of the more recent work on mRNA vaccines and cancer immunotherapy, have a look at this study as an example:
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Like all respectable studies, both possible limitations and advantages are discussed.
As to Frank's and your view that anyone who supports Covid vaccination is 'parroting government and Big Pharma propaganda', I would suggest a little more humility in your assessment of others.
Or this study:
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Brossart is considered by his colleagues to be a solid oncologist and researcher.
Thanks for the links! Yes, it looks as if the approval of the mRNA vaccines has spurred even more interest in using mRNA to treat cancer, though the autoimmune issues and other hurdles remain. As for the propaganda aspect, when the coercion such as Biden's and others' attempts at vaccine mandates ends, then I'll be more charitable in return.
DeleteThough I understand the objection to mandates (despite the many mandates in our lives),I prefer to consider the issue in terms of public good. Persuasion is always the better option, but it doesn't always work.
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