Friday, August 21, 2020

Indeed it is …

… This is a very powerful cartoon, if you look carefully at it. (Hat tip, Dave Lull.)

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  1. Powerful cartoon.

    Then we realized we had to sacrifice our grandparents. Then we realized we could not be free to piss in the streets and cough deadly viruses at one another. We must be free of the dual tyrannies of hygiene and public health.

    Then we realized that having to put garbage into receptacles is a breach of the long lost freedom to toss it all out in the yard like the good old days, before government stuck its nose into our business, that it costs too much for waste treatment. In America, we must live free from waste management tyranny.

    We realized the need for religious freedom, to worship like there's no virus going on. With God on our side, let's spread viruses in church if we must. God will understand the deaths. We'll take care of the bodies. He'll do the souls. This is what freedom of religion means to Christians, to sacrifice our beloved family and friends like we're a bunch of Abrahams, because worship and close communion is far more beloved . . . and for the sake of a prosperous church.

    Then we realized that "All lives do not matter," aha, that some have to be sacrificed, that junior has to go to school, even if it costs our family lives. When we were saying, "All lives matter," it was a simple mistake.

    Then we realized that viruses do not kill people, that people kill people, and therefore it was okay to kill people with guns all along. Aha. It was a simple mistake to say that guns don't kill people. They do. In US of America, we need the right of each of us equally, bar none, to spread viruses wherever we go and shoot people too.

    Some just have to die, so that some have freedom not to quarantine or wear masks. Oh right, and prosperity too. All of us survivors will be financially better off.

    Powerful cartoon.

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  2. Actually, all of us have a sell-by date. Those grandparents who may gave died from Covid-19 probably died because the governor of their state ordered all Covid patients to go to a nursing home.
    There are things worse than death — a life without freedom is one of them.

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  3. That's not a valid argument, just as the cartoon amazes in that it ignores how the pandemic spreads, through people not being hygenic. It even ignores the deadliness of the pandemic, and tries to create an argument where there is none to find.

    You have not argued either. You did not respond to any points that are in my response. While I demolished the cartoon's silliness. Most of the nursing home deaths, had nothing to do with governors' orders. Nor will most of the organ failure deaths in months and years to come, from the suffering this year.

    All 177,720 who died from Covid-19, died before their sell-by date. Each was a horrible premature death. Each life was as important to continue as each of ours. The response of the USA is beyond embarrassing. It cannot be called an embrassment. It is nothing but a horrific, preventable massacre of US Americans by US Americans.

    There is no excuse. There is no argument that turns 177,720 dead and counting into anything but a horrifying failure. And the actual number of dead is far higher.

    We never had to be in the tens of thousands. Some are now seriously considering herd immunity -- and they mean herd immunity as if some of us will still wear masks, with killers out there practicing an imaginary freedom not to. The virus cannot spread without them. Let's take a break from Covid-19 deaths, and allow people with HIV/AIDS the freedom to spread that, right? The reason we do not allow it, is because it is not a question of freedom to spread disease. We've never been free to do that.

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  4. Those would be the grandparents we weren't allowed to visit.
    We will never know the extent to which the Covid-19 mortality figures have been inflated. But we do have evidence that thy have been.
    And a cartoon does not present an argument. It illustrates a conclusion. And one is certainly free to argue against that conclusion.
    I myself have no intention of cramping my life because of the possibility that I may catch a bug. I do take common sense precautions. And I haven't caught it. Nor has my wife, who for medical reasons gets tested every week. Obviously, you are a true believer in the official view of this matter (which has changed quite a bit over the months — no masks, then masks for sure, then no masks OK if you're rioting or looting, etc). I think the official view is, to put it mildly, slanted. I don't like the slant, and I think in the coming months you will see quite a demand for some 'splaining.
    In the meantime, I will exercise my freedom to think and do as I please (don't worry — in any enclosed space I wear a mask to protect others from me and am grateful others wear theirs to protect me from them — which is how the masks work. As for open air, a study published in May by the Oxford University Press for the Infectious Diseases Society of America indicated that natural sunlight rapidly inactivates the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus on surfaces.

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    1. The cartoon has a fictional conclusion, based on no good argument -- unless the covidiots decide to do this again with an even more deadly virus. If we get there on this one, it will be because of the irresponsbility, incompetence, & mishandling that's taken place in this country where we should have been a world leader as a proud nation, so proud of how we contained it here, and helped other countries do the same.

      We can blame premature re-openings (just trying to see how many people die if we open now)(or are they trying to see who doesn't die?) and people not practicing good PPE hygiene (I bet I don't have it, but even if I do, screw you as I piss on your shoe too -- I don't care if you know that I am an a-hole).

      There's no good argument that the figures have been inflated to any significant degree. What's reported that might lead people to think there is inflation, are a coroners office here and another there who were sloppy. But if we subtract the number of expected deaths going into 2020 from the total number who have died, we get excess deaths. These excess deaths are far greater than who we have counted dead, and we have no explanation other than that there are tens of thousands more than we know, who have died from Covid-19.

      The numbers are not inflated. In fact, some of those who are alive are the traffic fatalities who never got into their cars, and flu fatalies who worked from home instead of catching it at the office. Murders, however, are up. No matter what the accounting, it only adds to the number -- which is at 178,666. If someone told me the actual number was a quarter million and rising, I would not have an argument against it, based on what we know.

      BTW, a study came out a couple weeks ago, that shows the masks help the wearer from inhaling the spewings of others. Nothing's 100%, though.

      On how to decontaminate surfaces, yes, sunlight is good. So are UVC lamps -- how I disinfect the basement, with care as the lamps can be dangerous to eyes and skin. A half hour supposedly disinfects to over 90%. UVC wands to wave over surfaces are available too.

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  5. So, "a study came out a couple weeks ago, that shows the masks help the wearer from inhaling the spewings of others."
    I'll remember to wear one the next time I read another apologia for the lockdown. But why bother? I've never had the flu, either. Most self-respecting viruses will have nothing to do with contrarians like me.

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